Madrian Thoughts on manifestation and the cross symbol


There is an interesting post Thoughts On The Cross by Madrian David Kay which describes sacred geometry (a subject that has long interested me) in response to a discussion about creation and manifestation.

Sorella (Sister) Sophia Ruth has found internet illustrations and her comments and questions are in red text.

Hello David, I have found illustrations for your described crosses and therefore I wish to know if I am visualising them correctly. His reply: As far as my knowledge goes, all your visualisations are correct.

Thoughts On The Cross

Sun symbol

All things begin with a point, therefore a point contains all things in potential.

A circle is the radiance of the point.



A line is an extension of the point in one direction.

[Comment by Sophia Ruth: I think that you mean ray not line.]

Sunray on Water
Sun Ray on the Water created by: Nature and Landscape Photographer Melissa Fague

A vertical line is the reflection of the spirit onto the material plane, creating a cross. Where the vertical line touches the horizontal line is the quintessence, the reflection of the spirit into matter, and contains all the possibilities of manifestation.


Greek, Saint Georges, King Georges

The horizontal reflection of the vertical line creates the cross of matter, the four arms being the four elements. At the centre, where the four arms meet, they are in equilibrium, reflecting the spirit. The four arms are the reflection of the spirit into the separativeness of manifestation, moving further away from each other as the move further away from the centre.


A circle surmounting the cross is the spirit reflected onto the furthest extension of matter.

Graphic: Sunwise / right turning swastika

A cross with tangential lines is the swastika, symbolising the turning of the world from the impression of the spirit.

A vertical line transfixing the cross creates the three dimensional, six armed cross of matter, making six the number of the sun as the centre of the manifest world, and the number of moira, which is the unfolding of all the events of the world from the spirit. A horizontal reflection of the vertical line creates the six spoked wheel of moira, which is the turning of the world from the unfolding of the spirit.

[Comment by Sophia Ruth: David, where did you gain this belief? I have never heard of this belief, I always thought that the number of the Sun was 1. Although 6 being the number of the sun seems to be a Kabbala belief, 9 being the moon number.]

Click to Enlarge Graphic: Article: The Wheel of Moira TCA Issue 11, Rosea, 121 after Lourdes 5081 page 1&2. Posted in Deanic Conversations yahoo group – archived.

Graphic: taranis wheel often misnamed as a solar wheel

A further reflection of the vertical line is the eight spoked wheel of themis, which is all actions unfolding from the spirit. The wheel of themis is a double cross; a diagonal cross superimposed on a horizontal cross. The diagonal lines are points of transition from one element to the next.

Graphic: Article: Who Is Moira in The Coming Age Issue 7, Rosea, 120 after Lourdes mentions the wheel of Themis. Posted in Deanic Conversations yahoo group – archived.

The cross reflected into time is the year, the solstices and equinoxes being the four elements, and the cross quarter festivals points of transition through the seasons, so that the turning of the year unfolds from the spirit.

May She be with you,



The only spiritual question that I ever remember receiving information back to was about the meaning of crosses.
Jennifer, Lady Alethea FiaMoura, Sister Angelina, Miss Priscilla Langridge etc probably used The Symbolism of the Cross book by René Guénon.

The Cross of Lorraine was explained as the vertical axis pole with worlds along it. The lower being earth and the higher being Heaven. The Papal cross having the worlds of Heaven, earth and underworld.



I view the St. Brighid’s Cross much as David Kay views the swastika, symbolising the turning of the world from the impression of the spirit / Supernal Sun.

The square centre meaning “In fact, when I see squares in my readings/interpretations, I always think of foundations (like homes, buildings or even plots of earth squared off for gardening). Squares are symbolic cues for me, and they speak to me about hearths, homes, matter and materialistic concepts. …In the Chinese way of thought, the square is a symbol for earth with the circle representing the shape of the heavens. This lends further weight to the earthy, grounded nature of the square symbol meaning. …Indeed, our ancestors transitioned from nomadic life by exchanging tents and teepees (circular) for solid square-based structures.”

“In Ireland, the superstitious believe that a St. Brighid’s Cross woven from rushes or straw, pinned to the door frame or roof rafters, protects the house from fire. Flames and the sun feature repeatedly in Christian icons and crosses (see Glory Cross). For the St. Brighid Cross, instead of a circular sun, we can imagine sun rays.”


Mr Philemon wrote:

Thank you, David, for your succinct outline of cross symbolism and thank you, Sorella Sophia Ruth, for your beautiful expansion on that outline!

The primary source I’m familiar with on this topic is Guénon’s The Symbolism of the Cross. It’s a short book but quite packed with insight.

Some additional comments on cross symbolism, drawing from that source:

The horizontal axis represents a given level of being, but given the infinity of the vertical axis, at any point there’s a symmetric infinite above and an infinite below. As such, the horizontal line represents any state of being, but particularly it represents that state of being in which the individual achieves realization by returning to the center point, or in the cosmological sense, the return of the cosmos in completion to Dea.

The vertical axis is fixed and infinite. In its cosmological sense, the vertical axis is the Axis Mundi. This infinite axis is the unmovable Pillar of Light (1). In a personal sense the vertical axis represents the true path of the individual soul. The vertical axis represents in this way the higher intellectual faculty – buddhi or nous. The horizontal axis in harmony symbolizes Thamë, since only through Thamë can there be that expansion from the center. Discord or Athamë can exist only locally within the wider harmony of the horizontal axis.

The vertical and horizontal axes form the union of a complementary pair, representing essence and substance. Depending on perspective, the vertical axis can be seen as active or passive, with the horizontal axis being passive or active in complementary union, but essence is always the superior and substance the inferior principle. Both are of course complements and properly two aspects of Dea Herself. The Feminine Universe inverts the patriarchal association of the feminine with substance and the masculine with essence by associating the feminine with essence, hence Feminine Essentialism. This is in accord with the symbolism since the representation of the two axes by forms are not fixed, but depend on perspective. As such, Feminine Essentialism represents a specific perspective on the relation of essence and substance.

The cross represents the three gunas, with the upward bar of the vertical axis representing sat (truth-goodness-being), the downward bar representing tamas (obscurity) and the horizontal bar representing rajas (activity). The two directions of the horizontal axis represents the creative opposition of duality, as do the two directions of the vertical axis represent the more fundamental creative opposition of knowledge (vidya) and nescience (avidya) through which manifestation is possible.

The six directions of the three-dimensional cross have a temporal meaning as a measure of the cycle of time. This may be more familiar as the six days of creation in Genesis, with the seventh day representing representing the still center of the cross. This is of course represented in the weekly cycle. Correspondingly the four-fold cross represents the four corners of the year, familiar in the Filianic/Deanic calendar, in the four divisions of the day, the four weeks of the month etc.

The cross represents the “Universal Maid” (as shown in the cover illustration of the Feminine Universe) or Universal Self. At a personal level the True Self is a microcosm of the Universal Self.

(1) As a footnote, the Pillar of Light is seen in the Shaivite tradition as the subtle form of the sacred mountain, Arunachala, in Tamil Nadu, Southern India. Arunachala is seen as the material form of Shiva. This form is represented and instantiated in the Shiva-Linga, which with the Yoni, represents the union of Shiva and Shakti, just as the cross represents the union of the creative principles.

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