Is Trinitarianism True Monotheism? by ArchMadria Pamela

Reblogged from
https://deanic.com/2017/01/05/is-trinitarianism-true-monotheism/

 Is Trinitarianism True Monotheism?

10 Hestia/Jan.4 Stelladi/Wed.
ArchMadria Pamela Lanides

Recently, Jacqueline, https://underthevioletmoon.wordpress.com/, posted a thought-provoking article entitled, Dea; Singularity and Multiplicity.Additionally, as mentioned in the previous Bits and Pieces, Sorella Sophia, quite independently, contributed to this subject with her own in-depth article, Sun Symbol, Still Pointe at the Centre of Manifestation. https://mydevotionstodea.wordpress.com/. I encourage everyone to read these two articles.These articles bring up a question we need to address which is, can Trinitarians truly consider themselves to be monotheists?

Trinitarian ‘monotheists’ believe there is “One God in Three Divine Persons”. This basically means that there are Three Unique, Intelligent, Individual Persons with the same Divine God-Essence/Nature/Source. A non-Trinitarian monotheist believes that there is only One Person with God-Essence/Nature/Source.

As Trinitarians, we perceive our monotheism as differentiating us from polytheism. But, in doing so, are we over-looking the difference between ourselves and those who are truly monotheistic? Is our belief in One God Who is Three Persons the same as the belief of a God Who is only One Person such as the God of Judaism and other non-Trinitarian Faiths? If we really think about it, is it at all logical to say that believing in Three Persons is basically the same as believing in One Person; that both beliefs equally constitute monotheism? Non-Trinitarians don’t seem to think so.

The shamrock has traditionally been used to illustrate the One God in Three Persons doctrine.  The shamrock is one plant; it has one stem, but from that one stem grow three, unique, distinct leaves, and so it is with the Divine Trinity.  The Divine Trinity has One Source/One Nature, one Stem, so to speak, but has Three Distinct Persons just as the shamrock has three distinct leaves. But, can we say that this plant with the three distinct leaves is the same as the one plant with one leaf? No, we cannot logically say they are the same and I think doing so does a disservice to those who truly are monotheistic.

Next, we need to ask the question: if Trinitarians cannot strictly and logically state that they are monotheists, does this indicate that they are polytheists?

Madria Erin, of the Auroran Tradition, recently noted that Trinitarians believe in a Godhead while polytheists believe in a pantheon. But what is the difference between a Godhead and a pantheon?

I love this explanation of the Trinity: https://alexandriantheologian.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/just-a-thought-apple-trees-and-the-trinity/.

This article clearly illustrates how the Persons of the Trinity all stem from the same Source. They are like the Three Distinct Apple Trees who each came from a cutting of the Original Tree. This is an example of the Godhead.

The article goes on to explain how the trees that grew from the seeds of the apples of the Original Tree are not the same as the Trinity Trees, nor is their fruit the same. The pantheons of polytheism remind me of the many apple seeds produced by the abundance of fruit from the Original Tree. While the Trinity Trees are literally taken and grown from part of the One Original Tree, the gods and goddesses of the various pantheons sprout from the various seeds of the many apples and so are not literally part of the Original Tree, nor is their ‘fruit’ the same.

Deanists may extend this same apple tree analogy to the Seven Janati. The Sophian Mythos teaches us that Sophia was placed above (and ruled) the Seven Planetary Powers. She is also known to have Seven Pillars, Seven Stars, Seven Faces, etc. The Deanic Faith teaches that the Janati are the Seven Planetary Powers and that they are like a Silver Light which flowed from Dea, through a prism, producing Seven Intelligent, Individual Living Rays. These Rays have been called goddesses or angels, though all admit that both words fall short of describing Their true Nature.

If the Janati are, as has been defined, Intelligent and Individual, then they cannot be understood to be merely aspects or avatars of Dea. Nor are they abstract powers or created angels. The Janati are individual Intelligences… …PERSONS… Who originated from Dea in the same way that the Celestial Mother and the Holy Daughter originated in the Absolute, She Who is the Great Mother. The Janati flowed out of Dea as Seven Living Intelligences Who have the same God-Nature as Dea.

This is why the Lucienne and Janite Traditions teach that Dea is One and Three and Seven.  If we can believe that One can be Three, why cannot One also be Seven? All stem from the One Godhead.

Personally, and speaking only for myself, I do not believe that Trinitarians, either Christians or Deanists, are strictly monotheistic, but neither are we polytheistic, believing in a pantheon of gods and goddesses who do not stem from the One Source, Absolute Deity. We believe in a unique Godhead of Persons.

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May Our Lady bless you,

Blessed is She.

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ArchMadria Pamela Lanides

4 thoughts on “Is Trinitarianism True Monotheism?”

  1. Jacqueline

    Thank you for these thoughts! I’ve actually been finding myself more drawn to non-trinitarian thealogy as of late (I would call it modalist instead) although I still find the subject as a whole fascinating. I do think it makes sense to think of trinitarianism as distinct from strict monotheism as well as from polytheism.

    • Dear Jacqueline, there is certainly a valid and acceptable modalist Tradition within Deanism. In fact, according to my understanding, one of the early schools of Madrianism taught that Dea was One (and not a Trinity). They viewed the Holy Daughter as the Mother in Her Daughter Form. So, rather than a Trinity of Three Persons, it was One Person with Three Forms. Many people are more comfortable with this thealogy rather than with a Trinity of Three Persons.

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  2. fgdsdamjhsdadghnfdsa

    How interesting. I remember reading once about the founders of Christianity coming up with the idea of the trinity as one in order to appeal to pagans. I know many of us are familiar with Mother, Daughter, and Crone within Wicca, a branch of paganism. Now, I have also read about many things in the Christian religion being created to appeal to paganism… such as when certain Holidays are celebrated due to their symbolism and why Christian service is usually on Sunday… instead of what we know to actually be the sabbath or seventh day. I remember once, the church I grew up in trying to teach us that the week actually began on Monday to align with this.

    Now, how true it is that Christianity was created to appeal to pagans, I’m not sure. It’s definitely obvious that paganism is polytheism. But, there are historical links to this thought within such things as the crusades. Although, going this far back in history is new to me and only a very recent area of interest. It seems the further back, the less information, and the more religious society becomes. This would seem to make sense considering where society’s thoughts are. The more worldly we become, the more we focus on recording worldly happenings.

    Another interesting thing to note however is that it seems the more religious a society or culture is, the more war driven it is. Though, this does seem most prevalent with patriarchal religions. I always find the lessons to be learned from the past quite interesting. Though, history must be approached in two ways… with the knowledge we have now as well as trying to understand it from the perspective of those who lived it.

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